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Pictures of the Body of Bin Laden 
7th-May-2011 04:00 pm
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Poll #1739084 OBL Pics

Should President Obama release the pictures of the body of Osama Bin Laden for the public to see?

Yes
14(18.4%)
No
48(63.2%)
I'm not sure
14(18.4%)

If the pictures of the body of Osama Bin Laden were made public, would you look at them?

Yes
31(41.3%)
No
31(41.3%)
I'm not sure
13(17.3%)
Comments 
8th-May-2011 12:43 am (UTC)
What, then, are your thoughts on the statement put out by al Qaida confirming his death?
8th-May-2011 12:58 am (UTC)
I know no one from any of the places Osama has been said to reside, so I cannot be sure it isn't all just fabricated by the United States government. Al Qaida included. We really are blinded to the rest of the world, even with the Internet. Eventually, the United States will only be able to communicate with those within our own country. Other places will be blocked. It's already starting.

Beware the savage jaw of 1984
8th-May-2011 09:00 pm (UTC)
...You do realize that if he was lying about this it would come back later and bite him and the entire country in the ass in a really big-time, probably fatal-to-thousands way, right? Do you really think so many people would support such a thing? And how would it serve al Qaida to confirm bin Laden's death and not trumpet to all who'd listen that it was just more filthy American lies?

As for the 1984 thing... As long as you (and thousands of other government critics) can post that sort of sentiment without reprisal, I can only regard it with great skepticism. While the United States doesn't have the greatest track record on transparent or reliable government, the situation is far better here than, say, China or Iran.
8th-May-2011 11:35 pm (UTC)
Honestly, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am a student of history, and as George Santaya said, those who do not learn from the lessons of history are condemned to repeat it.

1846: President Polk tells Congress that Mexican troops had attacked Americans on US soil. (It was later learned that it was really on disputed territory. Only Congressman Abraham Lincoln protested and he was ostracized for it.)
1898: President McKinley begins the Spanish-American War telling Congress that the Maine was sunk by a Spanish mine. It was really an internal malfunction on the ship.
1964: President Johnson tells Congress that the Maddox was fired on by North Vietnamese torpedos. It was later disclosed that the incident never happened and there weren't any NV boats in the area.
1973: President Nixon denies any knowledge of a Watergate coverup. Nixon later resigns rather than face impeachment over the incident.
1998: President Clinton tells the public "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." We all know how that turned out.
2003: President Bush tells Congress that reliable intelligence suggests that Iraq is developing weapons of mass destruction, when a prior investigation by Ambassador Joseph Wilson had discounted that intelligence.

Sorry to be so long winded, but my point is that a certain amount of public skepticism is probably a healthy thing.
9th-May-2011 04:51 am (UTC)
In defense of god-knows-what, Clinton's lie really didn't have anything to do with running the government. I just find it weird when people act like cheating on your wife has anything to do with the ability to run a country. Yeah, it made him a douchebag, but it didn't remotely compare to anything else on that list.
9th-May-2011 04:52 am (UTC)
Thank you.
9th-May-2011 04:09 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. Teddy Roosevelt once said "The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct... Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

(Sorry, the history geek in me got carried away again.)
9th-May-2011 04:50 am (UTC)
The reason crackpots like I are allowed to speak our minds is because the majority thinks we're just crazy.
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