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25th-Feb-2010 10:20 am
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I got into an annoying argument today, so I wanted to see what the masses... or at least the LiveJournal Poll of the Day masses think about it and feel about it.

I want Yes and No answers. So, those who want a million choices in between, sorry. :3 So, use yes as 'more often than not' and no as the reverse when needed please.

Also, it's probably worded crappy... so... sorry again. xD



Can you take a joke at your expense? IE: About your race, religion, sexuality, etc.

Yes
54(71.1%)
No
22(28.9%)

Do you ever think jokes go too far with stereotypes?

Yes
66(85.7%)
No
11(14.3%)

If a joke 'goes too far' do you get offended?

Yes
50(64.9%)
No
27(35.1%)

The joke which goes too far, does it have to do with you?

Yes
13(18.1%)
No
59(81.9%)

To offensive jokes about others, do you play superhero? IE: A joke that doesn't apply to you, but you found offensive to others, so you defend the people made fun of.

Yes
37(51.4%)
No
35(48.6%)

Do you think people want others to stand up for them when an 'offensive' joke is made?

Yes
43(60.6%)
No
28(39.4%)
Comments 
25th-Feb-2010 07:26 pm (UTC)
For the last two, there's a big 'it depends'. Also, I don't really know what you mean by superhero. I imagine some people want others to stick up for them, others find that patronising.
25th-Feb-2010 07:51 pm (UTC)
You swoop in and help others...

Superhero.

I didn't want 'depends' answers, hence the lack of those options.
25th-Feb-2010 08:13 pm (UTC)
I know you didn't want 'depends' answers, but for the last question in particular I don't believe there is an easy yes or no answer.
25th-Feb-2010 08:46 pm (UTC)
THIS. It's why I left those last two blank. The OP may as well have included "it depends" as answer options.
25th-Feb-2010 11:02 pm (UTC)
I didn't want them.

Not hard to understand.
25th-Feb-2010 07:59 pm (UTC)
I think people think they want people to play superhero ...
25th-Feb-2010 08:14 pm (UTC)
Maybe I'm the only one, but I think it does a disservice to complex issues to try to simplify them to a yes or no answer, so I have difficulty answering your questions and I don't really want to.
25th-Feb-2010 10:59 pm (UTC)
So don't.

If I wanted complex answers, I'd make a complex poll.

That's how that works. If you want to answer a poll then do, if not then don't. Posting about it is rather pointless and a waste of my time especially since I already made it clear I wanted yes/no answers.

I was trying to make it easy for people like you to avoid the poll and topic all together, but I guess that's too much to ask for.
25th-Feb-2010 10:30 pm (UTC)
i find the phrasing of your second-to-last question to be very leading, so i don't feel comfortable answering it. what you might call playing a superhero, i call being a decent human being.
25th-Feb-2010 10:56 pm (UTC)
Stepping in to a situation you may not even be wanted in... is not being a decent human.

The topic is jokes, not if someone is beating you to death.
25th-Feb-2010 11:08 pm (UTC)
so humour gets a pass from basic standards of decency? as long as you're being clever and someone laughs, you're not being offensive?

also, stepping into a situation where you may not be wanted is often exactly what it means to be a decent human. maybe you should think about that statement a little harder.
26th-Feb-2010 01:47 am (UTC)
-facepalm-

I didn't say it couldn't be offensive, I even voted that it can be. Why don't you go check.

If people take jokes to heart, then they are going to be causing their own heartache for a long time before they learn to not sweat the small stuff. If other people act all defensive FOR people then that's even worse.

I think most know not to take jokes seriously, so they don't need defended from them because they're smart enough to know that they mean jack shit. So when idiots swoop in and act like it's offensive to everyone then it just shows they think very little of people. That they can't stand some 'mean' words and are defenseless to stop it... when in reality, they likely don't give a shit anyway.
25th-Feb-2010 10:34 pm (UTC)
I'm too chicken to defend people targeted by stereotype jokes.
26th-Feb-2010 01:34 am (UTC)
All of these depend on 5 million factors.

So there really aren't any clear yes or no answers.
26th-Feb-2010 01:41 am (UTC)
Psssst, then leave and don't post. I stated CLEARLY that I wanted only yes or no answers, you had your fair warning to not fucking click the damn poll.

So get out. Thanks. If you want more answers for your own interests then make your own fucking poll.
26th-Feb-2010 02:33 am (UTC)
Wow.

When you post a poll to this community, people will sometimes have opinions about the poll, and will politely tell you those opinions. There is no rule in the community that says that people are not allowed to state opinions about the worth (and lack thereof) of the polls members post.
26th-Feb-2010 05:16 pm (UTC)
Please forgive elvick, he's really a very sweet person, who's just having a bad day that he decided to try to post a poll on.
26th-Feb-2010 07:46 pm (UTC)
LOL. You're a loser for getting off on me like this.

If you don't want comments, don't post.
1st-Mar-2010 12:44 am (UTC)
Being mean... that's a paddling.
26th-Feb-2010 03:18 am (UTC)
mte. and wow, way to be touchy, OP. :\
26th-Feb-2010 07:41 am (UTC)
I agree btw, I think your way too touchy. You could be a bit more friendly.
26th-Feb-2010 07:38 am (UTC)
I think there should not be made jokes about disease, or disability. Unless you know it is your best friend and you say it in a total mock style.
26th-Feb-2010 07:35 pm (UTC)
wow, so it's pretty obvious you made a “joke” and someone got pissed at you and now you are pissed at someone who can't “take a joke” and “played superhero” — maybe next time try to word your questions a little less biased-ly

as for actual jokes and humor, yes — I think humor is the best way to shine a spotlight on inequalities in our society. I'm disabled and if I can't get my doctors to laugh about my poor eyesight or cane I'm disappointed. My black stepson and his mom and I crack each other up about racial stereotypes.

anyway, if someone got offensive, it probably WAS offensive, not humorous, and whether they were part of the group you were “joking” about, they were right to call you on it, not “playing superhero”, just being a decent human, no matter who was around

anyway, i don't think it's playing superhero OR hero to tell a racist/sexist/whatever to STFU or that i don't appreciate his/her “humor”

as for the last question, a better answer would be “I don't care.” if the person in the room isn't offended, but I am, i'm still gonna say something. 'Cause you know that famous quote I don't feel like typing out completely right now — “when they came for the Jews, I didn't say anything, 'cause I wasn't a Jew, etc., then there was no one left to speak up when they came for me”
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